abheirrant: (Default)
[personal profile] abheirrant
—pposed to know when to start speaking? That wasn't a very thorough explanation on what I'm to do this, now was it? Hello? Hello? Are you listening to me? Are you even still ther—

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Date: 2019-11-12 06:00 pm (UTC)
benhargreeves: (uncertain)
From: [personal profile] benhargreeves
[ There's a minute or so before Ben answers when he isn't sure how he is going to respond. A part of him kind of wants to be a hardass about all this because they were definitely in danger and if he hadn't been there, Pratt and Kieran and maybe even Carlisle himself might have died. That's not something to be dismissed lightly.

But no one had gotten hurt too badly, and he doesn't understand what went down. He's not going to lay blame when he doesn't fully know if it's warranted or not. ]


Apology accepted. It didn't seem like you wanted it to go down that way anyway.

[ He at least respects Carlisle enough not to question the answer he gives of 'adjusting' which is not really an answer at all, is it? That's not the most pressing matter. Hopefully Carlisle is taking care of himself and recovering but that's really not Ben's business.

What is Ben's business is the stuff he'd actually been involved in. ]


What... did happen?
I mean I was there, obviously, but I don't understand it at all.
I thought it would be best to ask you directly.
What went wrong?
Edited Date: 2019-11-12 06:01 pm (UTC)
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Date: 2019-11-12 06:34 pm (UTC)
benhargreeves: @malagraphic (! observing)
From: [personal profile] benhargreeves
So, in theory you can still heal people, just not so much all at once?

[ Kieran's eyesight is still gone, and it's possible that the man won't want Carlisle anywhere near him now. But this is important information for Ben to have. Not just for Kieran's sake, but for anyone else's. It's vital to know if Carlisle is more of an asset or a risk. So he doesn't let him deflect so easily. ]

Did you know that that was a possibility, if you pushed yourself too far? Making trees die and summoning monsters?

[ He just needs to know what's appropriate here: sympathy, a lecture, or a gentle hybrid in between. ]
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Date: 2019-11-12 07:09 pm (UTC)
benhargreeves: (! aware)
From: [personal profile] benhargreeves
[ This guy really is allergic to straight answers, isn't he? Ben sighs, pinches the bridge of his nose. No lecture for now. He doubts it would help anyone. ]

I'm sorry to hear showing up here's screwed with your powers. Might be a good idea to figure out your limits for sure. Stop any more surprises from happening when you don't want them to.

[ Then, because he's not fucking made of stone, he adds: ]

Probably not a big surprise to hear I'm not a stranger to powers that can go really wrong if you're not careful.
If you ever need anybody to talk to or to help you.
I'm around.
Thank you for coming when we needed you, and helping my friend.
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Date: 2019-11-12 07:34 pm (UTC)
benhargreeves: (solemn boy)
From: [personal profile] benhargreeves
[ Ben had been a little surprised at himself, honestly, but Carlisle's surprise and questioning it only strengthens his conviction. He can be quite contrary at times. ]

There's nothing shameful about needing help. If dealing with fucked up powers my whole life means I'm in a position where I can help you, now that your powers have gotten fucked up, that's a bit of good luck. I'm not gonna hold a grudge because you tried and things went wrong.

[ And if someone with Carlisle's abilities is going to be living in the same small community as him, Ben would rather him be supported and trained and helped rather than left isolated and unguided, to cause some new chaos the next time things get hectic. ]
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Date: 2019-11-12 09:37 pm (UTC)
benhargreeves: (quietly nearby)
From: [personal profile] benhargreeves
I don't know if I can or not. I'm just willing to try.

[ He doesn't want to give Carlisle any false hope. He's not promising anything. Only saying he isn't going to avoid the situation and hope for the best. ]

I mean, you saw what I can do. I've had these powers my whole life. I had to learn to keep them in check and how to make them useful and not just a total nightmare.

[ Ben's doing his best to be realistic and honest here but he's definitely going to just neglect to mention that almost all of his training was extremely abusive and fucked up and honestly his powers are still mostly a nightmare. He's going for a positive outlook here. He's really trying. ]

It's up to you. I'm not going to pressure you. Just think about it. And take care of yourself, okay? I know you said you're adjusting, but that black shit you were spitting up looked really painful.
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Date: 2019-11-12 10:13 pm (UTC)
benhargreeves: (>:| or what)
From: [personal profile] benhargreeves
[ Fair's fair - if the guy says he's taking steps, Ben has no reason to disbelieve him, or to doubt that it will work. Hopefully it does, because he could go a lifetime without seeing aberrations like those horrible corpse monsters again.

But he does clarify: ]


Listen: I wish you the best of luck at fixing the problem, truly. But it was a specific kind of help I was offering.

I'm not going to tell my friend to trust you until I'm convinced you're worthy of it and no longer a threat. No offense.
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Date: 2019-11-13 12:48 am (UTC)
benhargreeves: (? lecturing)
From: [personal profile] benhargreeves
[ Well there it was! The last straw. Ben's patience only stretches so far.

(Maybe Cole was right, about these devices making people more cruel to one another. Ben will think about that, later. but for now he's right in the middle of his own anger and he has blinders on to anything over than his indignation.) ]


You yourself admitted that you put us all at risk the last time. You know I don't want that. Please don't take your temper out on me like a child because you're angry at yourself for fucking it up the first time. I would rather Kieran be alive and blind than rotted or reanimated or mind-controlled or whatever else might happen if you push yourself too hard a second time.
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Date: 2019-11-13 02:55 am (UTC)
benhargreeves: @malagraphic (>:| scolding)
From: [personal profile] benhargreeves
[ Ben is pretty sure that Kieran was in danger of just that, actually. If that horrible corpse creature had gotten a chance, it would have killed them all. And then, likely as not, they would have become part of it, or monsters separately. Carlisle can say there was no danger all he wants, now. But it doesn't change facts. ]

I was there. You can't tell me there was no danger, now. I know what I saw.

I believe you that it wasn't on purpose. I believe you still want to be the healer you used to be. And I absolutely DO NOT think you are a monster.

But I don't think you're safe for people to be around right now. Not until you work your shit out.
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Date: 2019-11-13 05:58 pm (UTC)
benhargreeves: (>:| don't do a hit)
From: [personal profile] benhargreeves
Why would I think that? You've given me no evidence thus far that you have done anything concrete to prevent that from happening again, or that you are someone with an ounce of discipline or self-control. Your temper tantrum's not really convincing me of your scrupulousness, I gotta say.

I hope you figure your shit out, I really do. But I'm not going to tell Kieran, who has been through enough already, to ignore his completely justified misgivings and let you try to prove yourself on him like he's some kind of guinea pig. And you snapping at me isn't going to change my mind.

My offer to help stands. But if you don't want my help, at least work on helping yourself. Or it'll only be a matter of time before something like that happens again.